Fotex-Veszprém

[pala]

Hi!
You will wonder:

I wis Fotex budget: ca. only 2-3 million DM!! /year.(Other european top team budget: over 10 million DM /or no?/).

We are NOT rich, but european visitors unwonted winning in ours hall.
(Kiel, Marseille, Montpellier, Barcelona, Teka Santander, Bidasoa, Badel Zagreb, Celje.....)
2-3 years ago in the Champions Leage quarter final , we are leading 10 goals against FC Barcelona in home!!! (unfortunatelly the end is only ca.4-5 /i don't remember/) In Barcelona 10 sec. before the end, we are leading by 1. BUT the referees given a penalty to Barca. Egal, but Barca win to away goals......In the CC Final Barca win 10 goals
against Badel.

We have good manager, good coach, good junior supply. The players enjoy playing in the team. We have many of one's own players.

How many DM the Flensburg budget?

Watch it Pásztor István (I wish he's the best player of the world/Left winger/)

Perez, Diaz - Cubaian dissident
Jovic, Saracevic - your best friend is Zdravko Zovko.

Flensburg-Fotex is in TV? (N3??)

[LuPe]

Hi

I think it will be a hard game for us. Have you haerd about the resuluts from Fortex from the last yaers (Lemgo, Barca etc)?
But we can get it!
I wish all Fortex-Fans a good tripp to Flensburg.

See You Saturday

LuPe

[pala]

LuPe

NOT Fortex - FOTEX KC Veszprém

Last year we had a bad match against Barcelona in home (2group match): 23-31 (13-16)/worst results/ ((

but in away: only 25-21 (13-13)!!

Kaustik Volgograd-Fotex 24-31 (10-18)!!
Fotex-Partizan Beograd 24-17 (13-7)

In the Champion Cup semi-final 2000:

Fotex-Badel Zagreb 27-25
Igor Lavrov wasn't fine

Badel-Fotex 30-26
we haven't fortune (again...)

[Thorsten]

Hi,

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">Zitat:</font><HR>Original erstellt von pala:
<B>I wis Fotex budget: ca. only 2-3 million DM!! /year.(Other european top team budget: over 10 million DM /or no?/).
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope. Flensburgs budget is probably around 4,5 million marks, THW Kiels budget is probably around 5,5 million marks...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">Zitat:</font><HR><B>
Flensburg-Fotex is in TV? (N3??)</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

At the moment it is not announced. I don't think that they will show the match.

Here in Kiel (I'm a THW Kiel supporter) we do know that Fotex is a very strong team and one of the top teams in Europe...

Fotex European cup history of the last years:
Champions League 99/00:
Qualification:
IFK Grankulla (FIN) - Fotex KC Veszprem (HUN) : 14:37 11:32
Group matches:
Partizan Belgrad (YUG) - Fotex KC Veszprem (HUN) : 28:25 (12:8)
Fotex KC Veszprem (HUN) - Kaustik Wolgograd (RUS) : 26:22 (10:12)
Fotex KC Veszprem (HUN) - FC Barcelona (ESP) : 23:31 (13:16)
Kaustik Wolgograd (RUS) - Fotex KC Veszprem (HUN) : 24:31 (10:18)
Fotex KC Veszprem (HUN) - Partizan Belgrad (YUG) : 24:17 (13:7)
FC Barcelona (ESP) - Fotex KC Veszprem (HUN) : 25:21 (13:13)
Resulting in second place in group d:
2. Fotex Veszprem (HUN) 6:6 150:147

quarter final:
Fotex Veszprem (HUN) - Badel Zagreb (CRO) : 27:25 26:30

see http://www.provinzial.de/thw/99ehfpok.htm


champions league 98/99:
qualification:
BK 46 Karis (FIN) - Fotex Veszprem (UNG) : 18:32 10:35

group matches:
Montpellier HB (FRA) - Fotex Veszprem (UNG) : 21:17 (12:10)
Fotex Veszprem (UNG) - HC Alpi Prato (ITA) : 37:22 (21:12)
Fotex Veszprem (UNG) - Badel Zagreb (KRO) : 27:25 (14:14)
HC Alpi Prato (ITA) - Fotex Veszprem (UNG) : 26:22 (12:12)
Fotex Veszprem (UNG) - Montpellier HB (FRA) : 26:17 (9:8)
Badel Zagreb (KRO) - Fotex Veszprem (UNG) : 19:18 (14:8)

resulting in 2nd place:
2. Fotex Veszprem (UNG) 6:6 147:130

quarter final:
Fotex Veszprem (UNG) - FC Barcelona (ESP) : 29:29 24:29

see http://www.provinzial.de/thw/98ehfpok.htm

champions league 97/98:
qualification:
Fotex Veszprem (UNG) - Kaustik Wolgograd (RUS) : 31:22 33:29

group matches:
Zubri - Veszprem: 24:30
Veszprem - Resen : 27:22
Veszprem - Lemgo : 24:24
Resen - Veszprem: 23:30
Veszprem - Zubri : 31:22
Lemgo - Veszprem: 29:26

resulting in 2nd place:
2. Veszprem 9:3 +24

quarter final:
Fotex Veszprem (UNG) - FC Barcelona (SPA): 33:28 27:32 !!!!!!!!

see http://www.provinzial.de/thw/97ehfpok.htm

best regards,
Thorsten
THW Kiel - <A HREF="http://www.provinzial.de/thw/ethw.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.provinzial.de/thw/ethw.htm[/URL]</A>


[Dieser Beitrag wurde von Thorsten am 21.02.2001 editiert.]

[Sven]

Hi Pala!
Sorry,that I didn´t wrote back an Email. You have some interesting players in your team, like Saracevic. We worry about a few players because they´re injured. In your Email you wrote something about hooligans? Is it really true? Do you know how much Fotex Supporters are coming to Flensburg? I said that we´re coming to Veszprem. Me too!!!! If you like, we can meet us before the game. A last question: Do you have fanwear? Like Trikots, Pins etc.? It would be nice, if you could answere here in our Forum! Many greetings Sven

[pala]

Hi Sven!

about hooligans: its really true.

We are hate zagreb, Dunaferr,Szeged fan.
If we playing these team, have a good
blow-up./especially against zagreb fan/
(affray, commando, flying bus-windows, etc....)

With the german supporters haven't problem.
So far.(If we beating them, but if no..)

Take care of your bus. (have same simp..)

[pala]

Bernie!

Bange machen gilt nicht unsere fans.
(lediglich für Kommando.. heh heh)

[WallauWieland]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">Zitat:</font><HR>Original erstellt von BernieButterfisch:
<B>Ich dachte immer, zwischen Flensburg und
Wallau bestünde eine besondere freundschaft-
liche Beziehung zwischen den Fans. Irgendwie
widerlegt, Deine Berichterstattung an dieser
Stelle dieses aber. Wie soll das denn gehen, wenn Du dich auf die Seite ausländischer
Clubs gegen uns stellst ? Und wenn dich
wirklich nicht interessiert, wie andere
Clubs im EC spielen, wieso gibst Du dann hier
überhaupt einen Kommentar ab. Ein Vorschlag:
Kümmere dich einfach um Wallau. Wir wissen
schon selber was wir tun müssen.
Gruß Bernie

Ach hätte ich fast vergessen: Dieses ist für
WALLAUWIELAND bestimmt.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lieber Bernie,

zum Thema Fanfreundschaft habe ich schon an anderer Stelle meinen (subjektiven) Kommentar abgegeben. Ich unterhalt mich mit jedem Handballfan. Frotzeleien gehören nun mal dazu.
Du hast meinen Beitrag nicht richtig gelesen.Da steht, daß ich im Falle von EC-Spielen anderer Vereine dem potenziell (in diesem Fall finanz-)schwächeren die Daumen drücke. Kommt daher, daß ich schon in 3 Ländern mit wenigen Sportstars längere Zeit gelebt und mitgekriegt habe, was die sich für ein Loch in den Bauch freuen wenn sie mal die "Großen" und "Reichen" ärgern können. Wenn Fotex den Cup gewinnt steht bestimmt ganz Handball-Ungarn Kopf.
Nun zur Frage warum ich hier überhaupt reinscheibe, ganz einfach: im Verleich zu anderen Foren ist hier viel Bewegung, die (aus meiner subjektiven Sicht) Dummschwätzer sind eher selten und man d i s k u t i e r t hier oft im wahrsten Sinne des Wortes. Zudem gibt es ja nun auch die ersten ausländischen Einträge. Finde ich recht spannend.
Nicht zu vergessen die innovative Technik.


Du scheinst das vermutlich eher als reines Fanzine zu sehen und andere Meinungen ägern Dich. Tut mir leid wenn ich Dich da störe und die Flensburger Einheitsfront durchbreche. Sollte ich wiederholt Unmut bei mehreren Leuten hervorrufen werde ich mich still zurückziehen.

MfG,

WallauWieland.

[Micha]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">Zitat:</font><HR>Original erstellt von BernieButterfisch:
<B>Donnerwetter, wenn das alles so stimmt was
Pala da sagt, dann sind unsere Fan-Clubs ja
nur Waisenknaben gegen diese Truppe.
Gruß Bernie</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Zumindest sind sie nicht handgreiflich...

Aber was "Ihr seid SchSchSch wie der THW" auf ungarisch heißt, wissen sie sicherlich schon.

Gruß, Micha

[Andi]

Wer sich noch für die aktuelle Leistungsstärke des Temas aus Ungarn interessiert, dem kann ich die Internetpräsenz des Schlecker-Cups in Ehingen empfehlen. Dort hat Fotex Veszprém zu Saisonbeginn teilgenommen und gegen die Nationalmannschaft Rumäniens sowie die beiden Bundesligisten TV Großwallstadt und THW Kiel gespielt. Letzteren sind die meines Erachtens nach nicht zu unterschätzenden Handballer in einem guten und spannenden Finale unterlegen.

If somebody is interested in the present sporting force of Veszprém, I would suggest the website of the Schlecker-Cup in Ehingen. In the first weeks of this season Fotex Veszprém has taken part in this tournament and they played against the national team of Romania and two teams of German's first division, TV Grosswallstadt and THW Kiel. Against the last opponent they lost a quite close and interesting final. So, to sume up, in my opinion the ungarian team is absolutely to be taken serious.

Trotzdem drücke ich aus der Ferne Flensburg die Daumen

Nevertheless all the best to Flensburg

Andreas

www.schlecker-cup.de

P.S. Pala, I'd be much obliged, if you could give a short commentary, i.e. your point of view, on the hungarian handball player Gábor Décsi.

[Thorsten]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">Zitat:</font><HR><B>Wer sich noch für die aktuelle Ehingen empfehlen. Dort hat Fotex Veszprém zu Saisonbeginn teilgenommen und gegen die Nationalmannschaft Rumäniens sowie die beiden Bundesligisten TV Großwallstadt und THW Kiel gespielt. Letzteren sind die meines Erachtens nach nicht zu unterschätzenden Handballer in einem guten und spannenden Finale unterlegen.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stimmt, da habe ich gar nicht mehr dran gedacht.
Hier unser Bericht zum Schlecker-Cup mit ausführlichem Finalbericht: http://www.provinzial.de/thw/00073001.htm

Die Berichte der Schwäbischen Zeitung findet man auf den www.schlecker-cup.de -Seiten unter Aktuell.

Ciao, td

[pala]

Hi!

Jan Holpert already played in Veszprém in the Cup Winners Cup Final (in Milbertshofen)/is there any thereof good team?/.(It was a good match, I was there)
Erik Rasmussen coach of TuSEM. (they get one's gruel..../+12/

Flensburg have many scandinavian players, and the referee in both match will arrive in scandinavia......... (very interesting...)

In my opinion for hungarians like german handball style.

Handball Bundesliga is the strongest of the world by the foreigners. The Hungarian Nat. team easily beat the German Nat. team.

Flensburg leading Budesliga. It's a respcectable thing.

Schlecker Cup:

In my opinion Fotex in autumn better than now. (I don't know why.)

2nd place in cup: it was a pre-match.

First and last:

It will a paceful thing, if Éles József (+5 goals/match) play against Flensburg. BUT NO!

It will the Final. In the last week fotex had a draw and a lost. We have NOT RIGHT WING.
I will optimist, if it wouldn't be these worst results, but on this wise??

My tipp: Flensburg wins 3 goals. (possibily more..)

Zdravko Zovko tipp: Fotex win 1-2 goals.

I don't know.....

About Décsi Gábor:

he played in Dunaferr, I don't like this player, because he was one of the best of Dunaferr. (last champion).
He plays in Grosswalstadt (if plays..).
He's a strong player, have big shoot.Haven't
too much Nat. match, because Éles is far better. In Hungary many good right handed players, but few left handed players.But Éles already 32, Décsi is younger. Currently he plays in Hun. Nat. team.

[pala]

Andi

Are you a Grosswalstadt Fan?

[Andi]

Hello Pala!

Thank you for your short answer. Yes, I am a supporter of TV Grosswallstadt, the team which has got a big experience with hungarian handball players.

In the whole three sportsmen from your country played for the german club team:

1) Peter Kovács (Is this the correct way to write it?) from 1988-1990, former star of Honved Budapest
Undoubtly one of the best players on the world ever and by the way one of my favourite ones. But during his time in Bavaria he was already a bit to old - about 36 and all german clubs liked to measure him by the 11,4 goals he scored per match in his best year....
He also played for OSC Thier Dortmund, TUSEM Essen, SG VfL/BHW Hameln and Bad Salzuflen in Germany.

2) Jenö Putics (same question) 1990-91, former star of Bramac SE Veszprém
At the wrong moment in Grosswallstadt: in a team which just won its 7th championship, but nearly all good players went afther the success. And the former player of Veszprém was sadly not able to be the accepted good shooter, but a quite good man in the defence. In the end absolutely remarkable: the european cup match in Prag, where he scored ten goals and helped to achieve the next round.
He also played for FA Göppingen and TuSPO Obernburg.

3) Gábor Décsi from the beginning of this season on, Dunaferr SE
A bit disapointing untill now: on the one hand a bad throw proportion (about 25 - 30%) and on the other hand to impetuous in defence. Not the expected good player and a bit worse than the croatian national player Tonci Valcic, who also plays in the team of Grosswallstadt.
First club in this country.

Kind regards

Andreas

[pala]

Kovács Péter: (not Peter -Péter)

In '92 Olympic games he was the older player, who played in the games ever.
Now he working in the Hungarian Handball Association /technical cheaf/.

Putics Jenõ:
He was a big star in Veszprém

You don't remember?:

Gyurka János (greeeeeeeeeeat)

You unheard him??? (grrrrr...)
He was one of the biggest star in Hungary.

Mocsai Lajos:

He was the coach of TBV Lemgo a couple of years ago. I believe he win the Cup winners cup with Lemgo, after this he goes to Tus Nettelstedt. He disagreed with Talant Dusebaiev (he's a chaw..), why send there. (i believe..)

In my opinion he's the best coach of the world. (pedagogy, technical kwonledge,etc)

Mocsai Tamás:

He played in Lemgo, when your father was coach. He was very young, I think he was of little account. But now he plays in Dunaferr and Hun. Nat. Team. He is a left hander.

Marosi László:

He was one of the biggest star of Lemgo.
(leastway he said that..)
He plays in Dunaferr, but now he had an injury.